September 12

That was a memorable day to me, for it made great changes in me.

Please read chapters 7, 8 and 9 of Great Expectations tonight, then respond to the prompt below:

Discuss Pip’s day at Miss Havisham’s residence, Satis House.  Some questions you may want to consider:

  • What questions does this event raise for you?
  • Whom does Pip meet?  What does he do there?  What can we make of these characters and this house?
  • Consider the quotation above.  What great changes does Pip’s day at Miss Havisham’s house make in him?  Predict how this event is likely to change him and the course of the novel.

As always, please reply to at least one other comment in this thread.

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Posted September 12, 2018 by equinson in category Great Expectations

46 thoughts on “That was a memorable day to me, for it made great changes in me.

  1. mylesn

    Pip meets Estella and Ms. Havisham. He was asked to play even though there was nothing to do or play with. Ms. Havisham and Estella were very rude to Pip and Mr. Pumblechook. they verbally berated him and made him feel low. They made him see how low in social class he is. Before this visit Pip was happy and content with his life, now they made him feel that his life isn’t good. This will most likely change the course of this novel because of Pip’s new perspective on things.

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      1. mirandak

        I definitely agree as well! Pip never really seemed to think lowly of his life in the past, but once he visited Miss Havisham, he certainly lost a lot of self-confidence and dignity!

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    1. trinityt

      I agreed. Before this, Pip doesn’t really think lowly of his life, but now, his feelings are hurt, and he has loses a lot of self- confidence, which made him think low of himself.

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  2. emmag5

    When Pip first meets Estella and Miss Havisham it was very interesting to read about. When he first arrives at her house, it seems very dark and empty in a way; windows are barred up and there are some rooms with no sunlight whatsoever. I thought that this was a very odd thing. However, in my opinion, I think things just got weirder after this. Once Pip arrives at the room to go into to meet Miss Havisham, Estella leaves him alone In the dark hallway. Pip is very hesitant before opening the door and he eventually knocks on it still a bit frightened. As soon as Pip enters the room, he is astonished by what he sees. Miss Havisham is not fully dressed and is wearing the oddest of outfits, including a bridal dress that she has on. Later, Pip is asked to play cards with Estella by Miss Havisham. Pip only knows one card game, therefore, that is the one they play. However throughout the card game, Estella is beginning to make fun of Pip such as his “coarse hands”. Estella was very cocky throughout the game and was almost smack talking Pip during the game and after she won. The events that occurred, especially Estella making fun of him made Pip feel really bad about himself and it even made him cry.

    In a way, I believe after his trip to Miss Havisham’s home, Pip lost a little bit of his innocence. I believe this because he thought very poorly of himself after being called all those things and being told he was not good at cards just made him very upset. Although he has been called a disgrace and a mistake by Mrs. Joe, it is different with Estella because Pip has just met her and he realized how awful he is thought of among her. Throughout the rest of the novel I think Pip’s perspective will definitely change to a becoming more serious and it might even become more mature.

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    1. emilyr6

      I agree that this visit resulted in a loss of i,Pip’s innocence. Before he was unaware of how other people viewed poor people, and now that he knows I think that he might start caring about other peoples opinions.

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  3. jaclynl

    In the chapters that I read tonight, Pip goes to Ms. Havisham’s house and meets Estella. There, both Ms. Havisham and Estella aren’t very nice to him. For example, when Pip and Estella play cards, Estella isn’t too happy about having to play with a common boy. This makes Pip feel upset about his social class, and his “thick boots and coarse hands.” This might change Pip throughout the novel because now he feels like his life isn’t as good as it can be. He didn’t feel this way before going to Ms. Havisham’s, and now his view of himself has most likely changed.

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  4. emilyr6

    In chapters seven, eight, and nine Pip is invited to go and play at Ms. Havisham’s, a shut-in who is very rich, and mysterious. Once Pip and Mr. Pumblechook arrived at the mansion, they were greeted by Estella, Ms. Havisham’s niece, who is a very beautiful but rude girl not much older than Pip. After Pip entered the house he was lead by Estella down a dark corridor and shown to Ms. Havisham’s room. Her room was very strange and it looked like it was frozen in time. Ms. Havisham was a very peculiar woman who Pip described as “waxwork and skeleton (that) seemed to have dark eyes that moved and looked at me (page 58).” She did not smile at all, up until the point where Pip contemplated whether she ever could, and the whole time that Pip saw her she did not move from her chair. She asked Pip to play even though there was nothing for him to play with. After Pip’s very feeble and awkward at trying to play by himself without any toys, she called in Estella. She told them to play card and the whole time Ms. Havisham and her niece were insulting Pip right to his face. Estella kept acting like because she was rich, she was better than Pip, who was nothing more than a “common laboring-boy!(page 60)” The made Pip feel very bad about himself because he was poor. Before this awful encounter, he knew that he was poor, but he never really thought about how other people viewed him. Now he is subconscious of things that he was not before, like how shabby his clothing is and how calloused his hands are. I think that as a result of how un-welcomed Pip felt, he will not want to go back and play next time.

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    1. Casey

      I agree. After spending the day at Ms. Havisham’s house, Pip lost a lot of his confidence. I guess he never realized that some people will say really mean things about others. He will probably become more self-conscious about how he dresses and how he looks.

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      1. emmag5

        I agree with you completely. I think that Pip never realized how brutally honest people can be with him and that he isn’t so perfect. I think Pip will begin to think more poorly about himself and act differently than who he is considering that Estella didn’t like some aspects about him.

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  5. Casey Zuckerman

    In chapter eight, Pip is sent to Ms. Havisham’s house. There, he meets Estella, who is rude to him and Pumblechook right off the bat. Estella takes Pip to Ms. Havisham, who is wearing a wedding gown of all things, and is standing in a dark room by her mirror. Ms. Havisham refers to Pip as “boy” instead of using his real name which makes him feel sad. She tells him to play cards with Estella, and she says “With this boy! Why, he is a common, labouring-boy!”(p. 60). This really offended Pip and almost made him cry. Estella and Ms. Havisham continue to insult him for the rest of the day. This makes Pip realize that people of higher classes think very poorly of people in lower classes. Before Pip went to Ms. Havisham’s house, he had a good outlook on his life and was happy. It didn’t matter to him that he was in a lower class. After visiting Ms. Havisham and Estella, he started to doubt his opinions. I think that as the book progresses, Pip’s doubts will get stronger.

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    1. Laila Sayegh

      I agree. I do not think Pip ever cared much about the fact that he was living with an unwealthy family but now he definitely has a new perspective on his life.

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  6. Laila Sayegh

    Pip spends a very eventful day at the Satis House. When he arrives he meets two people, Ms. Havisham and Estella. Ms. Havisham, in my opinion, had a weird energy to her. When we are first introduced to her, we find her wearing an old wedding gown while sitting in a dark room. She had a creepy appearance, which left Pip feeling uneasy. After forcing Pip to play, she asked Pip to call for Estella. Pip, fearful to disobey Ms. Havisham, screamed Estella’s name into the empty, bare hallway and eventually, she came. Pip thought Estella was very pretty. She was a young girl with long brown hair. Ms. Havisham commands Pip and Estella to play cards with one another but immediately Estella had a complaint. She didn’t want to play cards with a poor boy like Pip. She teased him about his hands and his thick bulky boots, which are two things Pip was never self-conscious about. Pip left Ms. Havisham’s mansion with a new perspective on himself. He was more self-aware of himself and was almost ashamed he wasn’t living in a wealthy home. I think that from this moment on, Pip will continuously stress about how he is presenting himself and other peoples opinions on him.

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    1. Kate M

      I agree. Mrs. Havisham is weird and Pip did feel extremely self-conscious after leaving the peculiar house. Narrative Pip said that the day he visited changed his life and I think that he means his perspective on himself has changed.

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    2. Hannah

      I agree that Ms.Havisham is a very strange and interesting character and made Pip feel uncomfortable. Also I agree that Estella was also a part of the cause that made Pip feel insecure and more self aware.

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  7. mirandak

    When Pip first arrived at Satis House, it looked quite eerie and mysterious. It appeared to be very old, barred and boarded up, as if to keep intruders away. For instance, the appearance of the house is shown in the text when it states, “Within a quarter of an hour we came to Miss Havisham’s house, which was of old brick, and dismal, and had a great many iron bars to it. Some of the windows had been walled up; of those that remained, all the lower were rustily barred. There was a court-yard in front, and that was barred…” (p.55) When I had read this description, this led me to have even more questions about Miss Havisham and her household. Why did her house look abnormal and over extensively walled up? Was she making an attempt to hide something? Had something horrible or dangerous happened to her in the past to have thought that such protection as boards and bars were needed? It just seemed that there was a lot about this manor that was unexplained and peculiar, but nevertheless, Pip had no choice but to enter. Inside, he became acquainted with Estella and Miss Havisham, whose characters seem to fit well with the strange home. Estella was beautiful, but proud and cold, and Miss Havisham was no improvement either. She seemed really melancholy and quite odd, dressed in a bridal gown, and not even fully dressed when Pip arrived! Moreover, as he continued to stay within their residence, it became clear that they had no intention of treating Pip with respect or kindness either, especially Estella. After he was introduced to Miss Havisham, she forced Pip to play a game of cards with Estella. Early on, she began to act really rude, insolent and ill-mannered. She consistently teased Pip for being a commoner, and criticized everything about him. For example, this is shown in the text when it states, “‘Let me see you play cards with this boy.’
    ‘With this boy? Why, he is a common labouring-boy!’…
    ‘He calls the knaves, Jacks, this boy!” said Estella with disdain, before our first game was out. ‘And what coarse hands he has! And what thick boots!’ (p.60). These insulting remarks really hurt Pip inside, as these comments, while comments of similar sorts were frequently said to him by Mrs. Joe, caused him to feel a different, more impactful kind of pain, as it was coming from someone he barely knew, and who hardly knew him! She even caused him to cry! She mocked characteristics, habits, and items of his that he never considered to be bad in the past. Essentially, this visit put his life into a whole new perspective that he had never even considered before. One in which he began to feel insecure and terrible about his life, which is precisely what he meant when he said, “That was a memorable day to me, for it made great changes in me.” (p.72) Due to this new perspective on life, Pip could very well change as a whole throughout the course of the novel, having a less joyous outlook on his life, and perhaps becoming as desolate as Miss Havisham herself.

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    1. mikaylaf

      I agree with all the questions you mentioned. The appearance of Miss Havisham’s house is peculiar and unnatural. Another thing I wondered about is where Miss Havisham got the money to pay for her house. Early on in chapter six, it was mentioned that everybody knew about Miss Havisham and her mansion. However, if all she does is sit in her house all day, frozen in time, how could she afford to live in this mansion?

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  8. Kate M

    Pip meets two very odd characters on his visit to the Satis house. Mrs. Havisham and Estella both treat Pip like he doesn’t have feelings. Estella thinks very highly of herself since she is wealthy and pretty. Mrs. Havisham is unlikely, creepy old woman, wearing an old tattered wedding dress and commanding Estella to break Pip’s heart. After Pip left this house he was completely shocked from what he went through and feeling bad about himself. Estella continuously pointed out Pip’s flaws. He was to poor for her, he had to big of boots and he had coarse hands. Now Pip is self-conscious and is sorry for himself that he is unwealthy.

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  9. Hannah

    When Pip arrived at Ms.Havishams gloomy house he met a beautiful, girl named Estella who had an attitude. When entering the a dark, eerie room in the house he met “…the strangest lady I have ever seen, or shall ever see.”(pg.57), Ms.Havisham. Ms.Havisham was dressed in rich materials that were all the color white including her hair. She was very impatient and said she was tired so she just brushed him away. “I am tired…I want diversion, and I have done with both men and women. Play.” Pip came to realize that it wasn’t just her looks that were strange it was her tone and how she spoke to him that gave him this vibe. Then Ms.Havisham invited Estella into the room to play cards with Pip. When Estella was given this request she responded like Pip was a nobody and a commoner. For instance, “With this boy! Why, he is a common labouring-boy!” Estella began to tease him about his hands and his thick boots. Pip has never worried about his hands and his boots for he thought they were fine, but now he began to become insecure about them. Ms.Havisham began to ask Pip what he thinks of Estella. Pip began whispering compliments about Estella. A little while later after the game was played out Pip went home with a change of mind. He became more insecure about what people think of him. Pip also was ashamed that he didn’t live in a wealthy house like the Havisham’s. I think Pip will continue to stress and be insecure about his life style and worry about what others think of him.

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  10. mikaylaf

    Pip has a peculiar day at Satis House. When spending the day there, Pip meets Miss. Havisham and Estella. Estella is a young and pretty woman who comes off as stuck up and rude. Miss Havisham is an older woman who is very strange. Pip’s weird day starts when he arrives at Miss Havisham’s residence. The house is all boarded up and old looking, and the description reminds me of a haunted house. The text states, “Some of the windows had been walled up; of those that remained, all the lower were rustily barred.” (page 55) Then, Estella brings him through the dark hallways of the house to Miss Havisham’s room. Estella abruptly leaves Pip at the entrance, putting Pip in the awkward position of having to enter the women’s room alone. Upon entering, Pip sees the strangest sight. Miss Havisham is sitting in a chair, in a bridal dress, with only one shoe on. Later, Pip realizes that the room seems to be frozen in time, as the watch and the clock are staying in one position. Pip is confused, and this confusion only grows when Miss Havisham tells Pip to play. He doesn’t know what to do, but he eventually plays cards with Estella. When asked to play with Pip, Estella responds, “‘With this boy! Why, he is a common labouring-boy!'” Pip is hurt, and this feeling increases when Estella continues to comment on the appearance of Pip. She says, “‘And what coarse hands he has. And what thick boots!'” (page 60) At the end of Pip’s visit, Estella brings him downstairs for a snack. Pip was so humiliated and was put down by Estella and Miss Havisham, that he began to cry. When Estella saw the tears in Pip’s eyes, she “…looked at me with a quick delight in having been the cause of them.'” (page 62) Pip’s day at Satis House will change him because he is now aware of how poor he is, and how his lack of wealth has caused people to be rude to him.

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  11. Sunna

    When Pip meets Miss Havisham and Estella, he leaves feeling very bad about himself. When gets there, the house seems very strange. It’s very dark and unwelcoming. Miss Havisham insists that Pip plays when there is nothing for him to do. Furthermore, Estella comments about how much of a commoner Pip is and is reluctant to play cards with him. She looks down on him because he comes from a family that isn’t as wealthy as hers. Pip leaves feeling much worse than before, and he will probably look at himself and his family differently because of that experience.

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  12. trinityt

    When Pip was at the Satis House, he met a girl, Estella, who is, according to Pip, pretty and proud. Pip also met Miss Havisham, who is old and was wearing a bridal dress, which used to be white now is yellow like mostly what she is wearing. Pip was asked to play there, although there wasn’t anything to play. When Pip was playing cards with Miss Havisham and Estella, they were rude to Pip. They made him feel low about himself and how low in social class he is, especially Estella since she wanted to make Pip cry, and Miss Havisham told Estella that she can “break his heart” (pg.60). As for the house, it is very old according to the descriptions. Pip’s day at Miss Havisham’s house has changed him by making him think low of himself, self-conscious, and it hurts his feelings. The fact that he did cried when no one was watching at the Satis House, proved that Estella’s and Miss Havisham’s harsh words and attitude did made a negative and hurtful impact on Pip. This is going to change Pip and the course of the novel because of Pip’s different and new perspective on things and himself. Some questions that comes to my mind as I’m finishing today’s reading is that how will Pip react to certain things? Will he change the way he interact with Joe, Mrs.Joe, or others? Overall, this event has made a big impact on Pip.

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    1. angelicac1

      Your second to last sentence is very interesting. I never thought about how this day could impact the way he would act around Joe and Mrs. Joe.

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  13. madilynr

    Pip’s day at Ms. Havisham’s residence was upsetting for Pip. Pip’s Aunt Joe tells him that he is going to play at Ms. Havisham’s house. Pip is greeted at the gate by a girl named Estella. During his visit Pip discovers that although Estella is pretty and wealthy, she is very proud and rude. Estrella is constantly putting Pip down with mean comments. As unkind as Estrella is to Pip, Ms. Havisham is odd. She is dressed in an old wedding dress and appears to not have gotten over her lost love. This visit with these wealthy unkind women creates low self esteem for Pip. After his visit at Satis house Pip feels self conscious and sorry for himself that he is not wealthy.

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  14. stephaniec

    When Pip arrives at Ms. Havisham’s house, he is first introduced to Estella. As Estella is walking Pip through Ms. Havishams’s house, he notices how ruined and abondoned the house looks. Pip started to feel as if he was being talked down to when Estella would call him “boy”, even though Pip thought they were the same age. Estella took Pip down a dark hallway and leaved him alone in front of a door. Pip already feeling strange, knocked on the door and got permission to enter, only to find Ms. Havisham in a wedding dress with only one shoe on. She tells him to play, but Pip was unable too because of the strange and unfamiliar surroundings. Soon Estella came back and played a card game with Pip. As they were playing, Estella pointed out that Pip had “coarse hands”. Pip didn’t really know what to make After loosing two games of cards to Estella and being teased because of his social class, he felt the need to cry. Estella took him to a different room and fed him. However, when she left he did not eat, he cried and kicked. After everything that happened, Pip felt different. He never realised how other people saw him. He felt very poorly about himelf, and this will most likely change the way Pip acts for the rest of the novel. Pip will most likely become self-consious and possibly try to change the way he looks.

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  15. Sophie

    This event definitely makes me wonder most, what happened to Miss Havisham to make her want to live the way she does? I’m sure something must have been through something in her life, but I keep wondering what! This big event is likely to affect the rest of the novel. One reason why is because it changes Pip’s perspective on lots of things. First off, it changes his opinion on himself. One of the things that kept on repeating was his “coarse hands and thick boots”. He now has this view of himself as a commoner, and he realizes he doesn’t like that. He wants to change himself now! That would have never happened if he didn’t go into the house. As a result he feels less confident, and this could affect a future situation or event that he might be in. Or it could maybe change his future visits with Miss Havisham.

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  16. angelicac1

    Pip’s day that was meant for him to play at Miss Havisham’s Satis House is definitely a day that he won’t ever forget and it really made a big impact on him. When he arrives, the Satis House appeared to look mysterious, old, and unpleasant. After reading the description on her house, I wondered why Miss Havisham’s house seemed so unusual and unwelcoming. It is said on page 55 that the Satis house “…had a great many iron bars to it. Some of the windows had been walled up; of those that remained, all the lower were rustily barred. There was a court-yard in front, and that was barred…” Is Miss Havisham trying to hide something that lied inside her house? Is she trying to hide herself or does she simply want privacy? The moment Miss. Havisham was introduced to Pip, she already sent me creepy and unusual vibes. There’s totally a reason to why she acts so mysterious and I’m eager to learn why. Another person Pip meets at the Satis House is Miss Havisham’s niece, Estella. She is quite cold and judgmental towards Pip. She leaves him self-conscious about himself because of how she mocked Pip and how “…he is a common labouring-boy…” with “…coarse hands…”, and “…thick boots….” These remarks Estella sent Pip even left him crying because of how much they hurt him! In conclusion, this day was a big impact on Pip is because he will no longer see himself in the same way. He will be more self-conscious and no longer carefree about the way he looks.

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    1. josepha4

      I think your attention to imagery and the bars show how the outside of her house reflects the inside feelings of Mrs. Havisham.

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  17. josepha4

    When Pip is told he had to go play at Mrs. Havisham’s house he isn’t excited. When he finally gets there, he is met by a girl named Estella (Mrs. Havisham’s niece) who guided him to a door. Pip knocks, and is told to enter by Mrs. Havisham. When Pip describes his observations he sees that the things she is wearing are frozen in time. She wears a wedding dress that seems so old it is losing it’s color. She mentions a heartbreak, we can assume that she has a trauma about her marriage that she hasn’t gotten over and maybe will never get over. After the introduction to her, Estella comes in to play with Pip. She is constantly demeaning him by telling him that he is a second class person. She points out his thick boots and course hands. Pip had never thought of himself as different from others until Estella points it out, it opens his mind up that he is a common nine year old. This opens up his desire to become uncommon. ” You can break his heart, says Mrs. Havisham” this shows that her toxic personality wants others to hurt just the way she does. After this encounter I don’t think that Pip will ever look at himself in the same way again.

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  18. Rcey Ortega

    Pip arrives at Ms.Havisham’s house and meets a girl named Estella. Estella approached Pip and Uncle Pumblechook at the gate. She took Pip and locked the gate. While they were walking, Pip asked Estella questions about the house. Estella called Pip “boy” many times and Pip thought that she shouldn’t since he thought they were about the same age. When they arrive, Pip finally meets Ms.Havisham. She tells him to play but he doesn’t feel like playing because he feels uncomfortable. Estella then comes and they play cards. She makes fun of him while they play and she wins both games. Pip leaves the house and waits outside for food. When Estella brings the food, she doesn’t even look at him. When she left he started crying because of how mean she was. I think this will change the way Pip looks at himself. After seeing how some wealthy people are cruel and rude, he will think low of himself.

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    1. janem

      I think that’s well said Rcey. I agree with you, and that now Pip’s view of himself is much more negative, and I think it will be an obstacle he has to overcome later in the novel.

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  19. maxwellw

    Pip’s day at Mrs.Havisham’s home has a multitude of immediate effects on Pip’s character, and possibly some repercussions in the future. Much of the strife Pip faces is actually from a girl named Estella, who was living with Mrs.Havisham. Estella was a very arrogant girl, who berated and insulted Pip to the point of tears. When Estella ostracizes Pip for his “rough hands and thick boots,” it shook Pip and made him feel inadequate, not having fancy clothes or a clean complexion. I think in the future this might encourage Pip to be rebellious toward Mister and Misses Gargery. Pip even mentioned that “My sister’s bringing up had left me sensitive. In the little world in which children have their existence whoever brings them up, there is nothing so finely perceived and finely felt, as injustice.” This statement may also foreshadow a festering doubt in Pip’s perception of his family, that might lead to him turning them away, or growing to loathe his upbringing as a destitute boy.

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    1. Zoe

      It’s true that Pip really felt bad about his thick boots and coarse hands because the author/Pip narrator kept bringing it up. It also may be because of the sister’s upbringing, as it says, that makes him sensitive and feel bad about being common. I agree that it might make him loathe his family for bringing him up as commoner when he grows up.

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  20. Zoe

    Pip’s experience at Mrs.Havisham’s home changed him and became a very memorable day for Pip. When he firsts gets there, the person he meets is Estella, who then takes him to a dressing-room where Mrs.Havisham is laying. His first impression with the strange lady is the dress and accessories she wears, which used to be white but have now become yellow. Mrs.Havisham then explains how she was in the mood to watch someone play. She makes Pip call Estella back to the room and play cards with him. Before they start, Pip notices that nothing in this room changes, such as the placement of jewelry or the times on the watches and clocks. He than begins the card game. Estella starts to make fun of him in the middle of it because of his thick boots, coarse hands, and his confusion of calling the knave card a jack. He becomes very hurt by it. He is called over by Mrs.Havisham and after many questions, tells her Estella is pretty, yet insulting and he wants to go. He is then let free to wander around after eating. The first thing he does is cry in the brewery from the insulting comments, but starts to roam around and finally leaves. This experience will definitely change him for the rest of the book because he feels common and even lied about his experience to Mrs.Joe and Uncle Pumblechook about his experience at the manor to feel less common. Pip will probably feel more conscious around others now and will also tell more lies about things that he does to feel extra ordianary instead of a commoner with thick boots and coarse hands.

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    1. Brishti Sarkar

      I agree! I think that he might tell more lies and become more mischievous than ever, but eventually he will progress to become a better person.

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  21. Brishti Sarkar

    Pip arrives to Mrs. Havisham’s house only knowing that he is there to play. When he first arrives, a pretty girl, who we later learn to be named Estella, is introduced to Pip, and walks him through the house, and Pip cannot help but to notice how dark and abandoned these passageways look. When they get to the room, Pip notices an old lady with a creepy and strange appearance, Mrs. Havisham, leaving Pip feeling uncomfortable. The old lady tells Pip to play, and when expressing his discomfort, she calls for Estella to come and play cards with Pip. Estella makes rude comments about Pip being a “common” boy, and saying things like how he says “jacks” instead of “knaves”, and poking fun at his course hands and thick boots. This leaves Pip feeling bad about himself and even drives himself to tears. The events of that day changed Pip, and it made him see himself in a new light. However, I think this will eventually build up Pip’s character, and that he will grow stronger.

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  22. Maddie

    When Pip arrives to Miss Havishams house, he does not know why he is there. He knows he is to play, but he doesn’t know how or with what. Estella leads Pip from the front door to Miss Havishams dressing room, while passing by lots of dark passageways and abandoned-looking halls. Then he meets Miss Havisham, and describes her as “the strangest lady I have ever seen, or shall ever see.” She was dressed in strange, expensive clothes and told Pip she hadn’t seen the sun since before he was born. Pip tells Miss Havisham that he cannot play because everything is melancholy and strange, so Miss Havisham tells Pip to call in Estella. When she comes to play cards, all she does is make fun of him. She makes comments about his coarse hands and thick boots and how he calls knaves jacks. After the first game, Pip expresses his want to leave, and Miss Havisham asks when he will come again. Estella eventually makes him cry. He felt bad about himself because of all the taunting and he did not have a good experience.

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  23. janem

    In chapter 7, Pumblechook decides to take Pip to Miss Havisham’s manner to play. So Pip spends the night at Pumblechook’s, with curiosity and anticipation of what “playing” at Miss Havisham’s means. He is taken to Miss Havisham’s the next day, and there meets Estella. Estella is Miss Havisham’s rude niece, who takes pleasure in seeing Pip feel common and want to cry. Inside the house, it is dark and mysterious, as is Miss Havisham. Her room has no windows, and is covered with what seems like bridal accessories. But Miss Havisham is unmarried, and much older than a typical bride would be. The once white accessories are now yellowed, and she says to Pip that she is “‘a woman who has never seen the sun since you were born’”. (Page 58). One thing that stook out to me was that Dickens writes that all of the clocks were stopped at twenty to nine, and that everything was returned to the exact spot after Miss Havisham picked them up. She also says that she has no idea what day, week or month it is. I wonder if this has any connection to Pip seeing Miss Havisham in a nuce on page 64. The trip to Miss Havisham’s was also rememberable because Pip starts to feel bad about his social class, and therefore feels obligated to lie to his family about the visit. I think that because Pip feels common and bad about his class that he will now make it a goal of his to one day get good education or try to make money.

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  24. johnh1

    During my reading of this chapter I started wondering about Ms. Havisham. It seems strange that she takes Pip into her home and tells him to play. I also wonder about her wedding dress. It brings to mind a curiosity about her past. It is also strange that she says that she hasn’t seen light in a long time. It seems like she is trapped in her home. I also have some questions about Estella and her attitude. What made her want to be so mean to Pip? I think it is just social differences but it could be something else that taught her to treat people in such a way. This attitude of hers has made Pip look at his situation a bit differently and I feel that something else will change too because of older Pip addressing the audience talking about changes.

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