Holy Saint Francis!

Tonight, please paraphrase and then analyze the speech below.  For your analysis, be sure to tell who said the quotation, to whom, and under what circumstances.   Be sure to focus on characterization, plot development, and theme.

As always, be sure to follow the rules of standard written English and don’t forget to respond to the analysis of your classmates as well.

Holy Saint Francis, what a change is here!
Is Rosaline, whom thou didst love so dear,
So soon forsaken? young men’s love then lies
Not truly in their hearts, but in their eyes.
Jesu Maria, what a deal of brine
Hath wash’d thy sallow cheeks for Rosaline!
How much salt water thrown away in waste,
To season love, that of it doth not taste!
The sun not yet thy sighs from heaven clears,
Thy old groans ring yet in my ancient ears;
Lo, here upon thy cheek the stain doth sit
Of an old tear that is not wash’d off yet:
If e’er thou wast thyself and these woes thine,
Thou and these woes were all for Rosaline:
And art thou changed? pronounce this sentence then,
Women may fall, when there’s no strength in men.

R&J blog #9

37 thoughts on “Holy Saint Francis!

  1. Holy Saint Francis, what a dramatic change of heart!
    Is Rosalina, who you loved so deeply
    So soon abandoned? Then young men’s love then is
    In their eyes, not their hearts
    Oh my goodness, what an amount of tears
    You have shed from your cheeks for Rosaline!
    How many tears have gone to waste,
    For love, that you have not tasted!
    The sun has not cleared your sighs from heaven yet
    Your groans still ring in my ancient ears
    There upon your cheek is a stain
    Of an old tear that hasn’t been washed off yet:
    If you ever were yourself and your misery yours,
    You and this misery was all for Rosaline:
    And have you changed? Say this then,
    Women may fail in what men do not have

    Returning from Juliet, Romeo requests the Friar to marry him to Juliet. At this, Friar Lawrence is shocked at such a sudden change in him, and speaks to him the speech above (though not paraphrased). He rebukes him for acting as if his love for Rosaline was meaningless and for switching interests so suddenly, after he had shed so many tears for her. Friar Lawrence’s observations makes me reconsider R each other is not so great. Although they have a mutual, great fondness for each other Romeo and Juliet’s love again. Suddenly, you notice that their love for, their love is too rash, too unadvised, and too sudden, as Juliet said. Romeo had gone from crushing on someone so badly he would cry and groan, but has left all those feeling overnight. In addition, usually when two people meet and fall in love, they might take months or even years before considering marrying. However, in this case, they attempt to marry in less than a day. We all know that Romeo and Juliet as the romantic, classic love story, but is their love really that great if they haven’t been together in the same place for more than an hour?

  2. Holy Saint Francis, what a change is here!- Holy Saint Francis, a change has occurred!
    Is Rosaline, whom thou didst love so dear,- Rosaline, the one you loved very much,
    So soon forsaken? young men’s love then lies- So soon forgotten? Young men’s love lies
    Not truly in their hearts, but in their eyes.- Not in their hearts, but in their eyes.
    Jesu Maria, what a deal of brine- Jesus and Mary, all the tears you cried
    Hath wash’d thy sallow cheeks for Rosaline!- You washed your cheeks with tears for Rosaline!
    How much salt water thrown away in waste,- How many tears did you waste,
    To season love, that of it doth not taste!- To cry about a love, that has gone so fast!
    The sun not yet thy sighs from heaven clears,-The sun hasn’t cleared you clouds of tears,
    Thy old groans ring yet in my ancient ears;-I still hear your cries in my ears;
    Lo, here upon thy cheek the stain doth sit-Oh, on your cheek a stain remains
    Of an old tear that is not wash’d off yet:- Of the old tears that have not washed away:
    If e’er thou wast thyself and these woes thine,- If you ever were sad and those were your tears,
    Thou and these woes were all for Rosaline:- They were all for Rosaline:
    And art thou changed? pronounce this sentence then,-Are you over her? Repeat this sentence,
    Women may fall, when there’s no strength in men.-Women will leave, when you are unreliable.
    That speech was said by Friar Lawrence. Friar Lawrence said this to Romeo after Romeo asked if he would marry Juliet and him. He told him that just a little while ago he was crying about Rosaline. Now all the sudden he wants to get married to Juliet. Friar Lawrence was saying how Romeo only likes girls because they are pretty and how he has never been truly in love. Friar Lawrence thinks Romeo is being impulsive. This shows us that Friar Lawrence thinks things through, a little. This can help us develop the plot because we see that Friar Lawrence thinks Romeo is being impulsive and things won’t go well. But then Friar Lawrence suddenly decides this is a great idea because it will solve the conflict between the two houses. So the long speech he made about why Romeo should not get married was thrown in the trash.
    My paraphrase of each line is after the – mark.

    • Your paraphrasing was great! I saw the lines about wasting tears as Rosaline being the one crying, and not Romeo. But it makes more sense if Romeo had been the one crying, because when he was in love with Rosaline he was so melancholy. Also I agree with you when you say that Romeo is being impulsive.

  3. In Act II, scene iii of Romeo and Juliet Romeo talks to Friar Lawrence about his marriage with Juliet. When he hears of Romeo’s plan to marry her, he says,

    “Holy Saint Francis, what a change is here!
    Is Rosaline, that thou didst love so dear,
    So soon forsaken? Young men’s love then lies
    Not truly in their hearts, but in their eyes.
    Jesu Maria, what a deal of brine
    Hath washed thy sallow cheeks for Rosaline!
    How much salt water thrown away in waste
    To season love, that of it doth not taste!
    The sun not yet thy sighs from heaven clears,
    Thy old groans yet ringing in mine ancient ears.
    Lo, here upon thy cheek the stain doth sit
    Of an old tear that is not washed off yet.
    If e’er thou wast thyself and these woes thine,
    Thou and these woes were all for Rosaline.
    And art thou changed? Pronounce this sentence
    then:
    Women may fall when there’s no strength in men.” (ll. 69-85, page 89).

    When paraphrased, it became:

    “Holy Saint Francis, what a big change has occurred here!
    Is it for Rosaline, who you loved so dearly,
    Forgotten so soon? Young men’s love then lies
    Not really in their hearts, but rather in their eyes.
    Jesus and Mary, you cried so much
    And washed your cheeks with tears for Rosaline!
    How many tears have been wasted
    On love that you have not experienced!
    The sun hasn’t cleared the sighs you left from heaven yet,
    And your groans still ring in my old ears.
    On your cheek is a stain
    Of an old tear that has not been washed off yet.
    If you were ever yourself and that was your misery,
    All of it was for Rosaline.
    And are you different? Say this sentence
    then:
    Women will not be faithful when men are unreliable.”

    This passage gives some insight into the character of the Friar. Here, we see him as wise compared to the young and rash Romeo. Romeo, who wants to get married right away, is at the mercy of Friar Lawrence, who is basically saying, “Hold on, hold on, lets get things straight before moving ahead.” The Friar seems surprised as well because Romeo was so infatuated with Rosaline, but has suddenly switched his efforts to Juliet. I also liked the fact that Romeo has an elder mentor that can help him in his troubles, such as Juliet has her nurse. Yet it makes me wonder, what role will he play in the rest of the story? Will he play a part after Romeo and Juliet die? Romeo, as well, is interesting in this scene. Instead of giving up on the Friar, he keeps pushing forward and pleading until he gets what he wants, the consent for marriage. Overall, I found this little scene to be nice in introducing the character of Friar Lawrence and providing more insight into Romeo’s character.

    • Great job! You analyzed the text really well and I agree that Friar Lawrence is seen as wiser than Romeo. I think that Friar Lawrence is depicted as wise because he is seen as an older caregiver who is trying to teach Romeo great lessons. Keep up the great work!

  4. In tonights reading of Act 2 scene iii of Romeo and Juliet, by WIlliam Shakespeare, we read a fantastic speech by Friar Laurence that shows the reader a bit about Lawrence’s character. The speech reads, “Holy Saint Francis, what a change is here! Is Rosaline, whom thou didst love so dear, So soon forsaken? young men’s love then lies Not truly in their hearts, but in their eyes. Jesu Maria, what a deal of brine Hath wash’d thy sallow cheeks for Rosaline! How much salt water thrown away in waste, To season love, that of it doth not taste! The sun not yet thy sighs from heaven clears, Thy old groans ring yet in my ancient ears; Lo, here upon thy cheek the stain doth sit Of an old tear that is not wash’d off yet: If e’er thou wast thyself and these woes thine, Thou and these woes were all for Rosaline: And art thou changed? pronounce this sentence then, Women may fall, when there’s no strength in men.” This speech can be translated to, Holy Saint Francis, this change is drastic! Have you given up on Rosaline, who you loved so much, so quickly? Young men only love the way someone looks, not their inner beauty. Jesus, how much you cried for Rosaline! How many years did you waste crying about love that you never truly tasted? The sun hasn’t cleared away all the fog created by your many sighs. The complains you made are still ringing in my old ears. You and your sadness were all for Rosaline. And now you’ve changed? Then repeat this after me: Men need to be strong for women to be strong, women rely on men and when men are weak so are women. Personally, I feel that not all women are weak when men are, sometimes this situation can be flipped and the women need to be strong for the men. Anyways, this shows a bit about Friar Lawrence’s character. In this speech he seems to say a lot of things related to religion. We can now infer that he is faithful and a religious man. Usually, not always, old religious men believe that men are superior to women and this is kinda what he is saying. This plays to the motif of gender. Not only did what Friar Lawrence say was contributing to the motif of gender, it was specifically talking about the meaning of behind genders. Friar Lawrence was talking about how men need to be strong for women to be strong. To be strong can mean two things if you look in the dictionary, it can mean the ability to move heavy weights or perform other physically demanding task, or to be able to withstand great force or pressure. In this speech Lawrence could have been referring to the the strength that is able to withstand great force. If you put it in context, he is saying that men need to continue no matter what happens which can then give women the confidence to stand up and do the same. If you replace women and men with a person, you get, when one person continues and shows perseverance, it will help others do the same.

  5. Our plot is now beginning to set in motion, with Romeo and Juliet wanting to be married, Friar Lawrence agreeing to blessing them, and the feud still present between to two families.

    “Holy Saint Francis, what a change is here!
    Is Rosaline, whom thou didst love so dear,
    So soon forsaken? young men’s love then lies
    Not truly in their hearts, but in their eyes.
    Jesu Maria, what a deal of brine
    Hath wash’d thy sallow cheeks for Rosaline!
    How much salt water thrown away in waste,
    To season love, that of it doth not taste!
    The sun not yet thy sighs from heaven clears,
    Thy old groans ring yet in my ancient ears;
    Lo, here upon thy cheek the stain doth sit
    Of an old tear that is not wash’d off yet:
    If e’er thou wast thyself and these woes thine,
    Thou and these woes were all for Rosaline:
    And art thou changed? pronounce this sentence then,
    Women may fall, when there’s no strength in men.”

    This speech is saying-
    Oh my goodness, this is a big change!
    Is Rosaline, who you loved so much,
    forgotten about already? young men fall so deep in love
    not with her heart but with what they see.
    Jesu Maria, so many tears
    are washing Roslaine’s cheeks!
    All her tears wasted,
    on a love that has not lasted!
    Your love is still present to this morning,
    I can hear those groaning over this;
    I can see stains on your cheeks
    from tears that have persisted for a while:
    If you ever get rid of those tears and this problem goes away,
    you’ll see that Rosaline had caused those tears:
    And does this change you? Then think about this cliche,
    Women will lose courage, when men are no longer strong.”

    Romeo has told Friar Lawrence that he loves a girl, and she loves him back, so he’d like for Friar Lawrence to bless them in their marriage. Friar Lawrence at first believes that Romeo wants to marry Rosaline, but to his surprise, Romeo is really talking about Juliet. Friar Lawrence at first disagrees with this marriage, but then he decides that this marriage could end the conflict between the Montague’s and and Capulet’s. Perhaps Friar Lawrence also sees that Romeo loves someone for who they are, and not what he sees. However, Romeo did say that he never saw “true beauty till this night.” So Romeo does fall in love based on looks, but the love is mutual with Juliet. So Friar Lawrence must see the feud aspect is their marriage. If Friar Lawrence is willing to marry them, then maybe he sees a change in Romeo’s character on love.

    • Nice job, Ashley. Although I think that Friar Lawrence was talking about Romeo’s tears for Rosaline, not the other way around.

  6. Romeo told his father about his new love in this scene, and his father was not a fan of it at first.

    Paraphrase:
    Holy Saint Francis, what a change of mind!
    Is Rosaline, who you used to love
    Now in the past? Young people’s love is in
    Not their feelings, but in the looks.
    Jesu Maria, what an amount of teaes
    You have cried for Rosaline
    How many tears have been wasted
    To a love you haven’t even tasted
    The sun has not forgotten your sighs
    Your groans are still heard in my ears
    They continue to stain your cheeks
    There is an old tear that has not gone yet
    You keep wasting yourself and your sadness
    And all that sorrow was for Rosaline
    And have you changed? Say this then
    Women will fall, when the men are weak.

    Romeo’s father is very angry with Romeo’s new love. Romeo had been in love with Rosaline for a little amount of time, and he had switched his affection extremely quickly. His father says that Romeo is like a young lover, one who does not care for the emotions and the characteristics of a woman, but only for the looks. Romeo had shed so many tears and whined so many times over Rosaline not loving him back, and now he had moved on from her in a blink of an eye. He says that Romeo has wasted a lot of his energy, time and thoughts over Rosaline, and probably thinks that he will do the same exact thing with Juliet. It doesn’t help that Juliet is from the rival household, but his father is upset with his choices over his love life.

    • Great blog! I like your paraphrasing. The only thing is that Friar Lawrence is not Romeo’s father. Romeo just calls him father because that’s the name that people gave to Friars and Popes back then. If it were his father, I am not sure he would be as merciful to Romeo as the Friar was. Overall, you did an awesome job. Keep up the good work! 🙂

    • Yeah, you have to remember that Romeo’s father is Montague. That’s why his love with Juliet is forbidden. Otherwise, though, great blog!

  7. Holy Saint Francis, how much you’ve changed!
    Is Rosaline, the one you loved so much,
    So easily abandoned? If so, then it is true that young men
    Love through their eyes, and not their hearts.
    Jesu Maria, how many tears
    Have run down your cheeks for Rosaline!
    How much salty water has been wasted
    On love, that it doesn’t taste of
    The sun has not cleared the heaven from your sighs,
    I still hear your groans in my ears.
    Oh, on your cheeks there are still stains
    Of old tears that haven’t been washed off yet.
    If you are to be yourself, and your miseries would still be yours,
    Your woes would all be for Rosaline.
    And have you changed? If you have, say this
    Then:
    Women will fail only after men have failed first.

    This quote was said by Friar Lawrence. Romeo had just told him that he was in love with Juliet. Friar was telling Romeo that his love for Juliet was probably not sincere because of his pains about Rosaline. Romeo had so much trouble getting over Rosaline, that Friar did not believe that Romeo had fallen in love with someone else, and so painlessly. Afterward, Friar Lawrence realized that their marriage could have the potential of stopping the hate between the two houses, so he agrees to marry them. We still don’t know if this will work, or if Romeo and Juliet will be found out. I am very excited to keep reading.

  8. Holy Saint Francis, what a change is here!
    Is Rosaline, whom thou didst love so dear,
    So soon forsaken? Young men’s love then lies
    Not truly in their hearts, but in their eyes.
    Jesu Maria, what a deal of brine
    Hath wash’d thy sallow cheeks for Rosaline!
    How much salt water thrown away in waste,
    To season love, that of it doth not taste!
    The sun not yet thy sighs from heaven clears,
    Thy old groans ring yet in my ancient ears;
    Lo, here upon thy cheek the stain doth sit
    Of an old tear that is not wash’d off yet:
    If e’er thou wast thyself and these woes thine,
    Thou and these woes were all for Rosaline:
    And art thou changed? pronounce this sentence then,
    Women may fall, when there’s no strength in men.
    (II.iii.69-85)

    Holy Saint Francis, what a quick change of heart!
    Is Rosaline, whom you loved so dearly,
    Let go so soon? Young men’s love then lies
    Not in their heart, but in their appearance.
    So many tears
    Did you shed for Rosaline!
    How many tears wasted,
    To preserve love, which you never experienced!
    The sun hasn’t even cleared your sighs from the heavens,
    Your groans ring in my old ears;
    Here on your cheek is a stain
    Of an old tear that hasn’t washed off yet:
    If ever you were yourself, and this misery yours,
    You and your woes were all for Rosaline:
    And are you changed? Pronounce this sentence then,
    Women may be excused for acting immorally, because there is no morality in men.

    This speech was given to Romeo by Friar Lawrence. Here’s some context: “Then plainly / know my heart’s dear love is set / On the fair daughter of rich Capulet. / As mine on hers, so hers is set on mine, / And all combined, save what thou must combine / By holy marriage. When and where and how / We met, we wooed, and made exchange of vow / I’ll tell thee as we pass, but this I pray, / That thou consent to marry us today,” (II.iii.61-68). Friar Lawrence is shocked by the sudden change of heart, since, just a day before, he was pining for Rosaline. Friar Lawrence’s speech makes him seem like one of the few logical people in this book. He has a completely normal reaction to Romeo’s change of heart, which simultaneously makes Romeo seem even more ridiculous by putting this change of heart in perspective. By juxtaposing Romeo to a logical character instead of, say, Juliet, who thinks the exact same way he does, Romeo seems out of his mind. This scene also establishes Friar Lawrence’s role as Romeo’s advisor. He is similar to Juliet’s nurse. Romeo tells him everything, wanting to hear his opinion and feedback.

    • I completely agree with your opinion of the conversation. Romeo is crazy to be trying to marry Juliet and by juxtapositioning Romeo, with a reasonable character, we see just how impulsive Romeo is.

  9. Holy Saint Francis, your love has shifted greatly!
    Has Rosaline, the lady you loved so much,
    Already been given up? Young don’t love
    Truly, but rather on a whim.
    Jesu Maria, so many tears
    Have been shed for Rosaline!
    You have wasted so many tears
    On a love that was not true
    Your sighs for Rosaline have not even left the air
    Your complaints for Rosaline have not left my ears
    On your cheek there is still
    A tear you have shed for Rosaline,
    All of this complaining and sighing for Rosaline.
    And you just change your mind? Hear this:
    Women are only reliable when you are.

    In this scene, it is the morning after the encounter between Romeo and Juliet in Capulet’s Orchard. Romeo’s father is speaking to him, and has just found out that Romeo wishes to marry Juliet. He immediately expressed astonishment with this speech. During this speech, he asks how Romeo could just abandon Rosaline for Juliet only just after meeting her. He asks. Why would you throw away all of the love that you have given for Rosaline? This is an excellent example of characterization for Romeo’s father. Romeo’s father is shown to be a very traditional man, and does not care for Romeo’s seemingly careless loving. However, he also does not approve of romeo’s wallowing love for Rosaline, fitting into the role and creating a theme of a stubborn and traditional father continually disapproving of his son’s actions.

  10. In Act 2 Scene 3 from Romeo and Juliet by William Shakespeare, Friar Lawrence raises a very valid point when talking to Romeo. Their conversation happens after Romeo ask Friar Lawrence if he and Juliet can be married.vHere is a summary of what the Friar says:

    Holy Saint Francis, this is a huge change! Did you forget your love for Rosaline?
    Young men than love only love based on looks.
    Jesus and Marie, how many tears have you cried for Rosaline!
    How many tears have you wasted, for a love you don’t feel.
    The sun hasn’t yet cleared your sighs,
    I can still hear your groans for Rosaline.
    Look, on your cheek, there is a stain,
    From a tear that hasn’t left yet:
    If you are yourself and this sadness was yours, and these sorrows were for Rosaline:
    And your mind has changed?
    Repeat this sentence, Woman may cheat on men, if men can’t be faithful.

    Before I discuss what this means let me just mention that in translating what the Friar said I ruined the rhyme scheme. Before the translation, this was in an “aabbccddeeffgghh” rhyming pattern. What the Friar means by saying all of this is that Romeo loved Rosaline. He groaned about her, he wept over her, and he sighed from her. Now, overnight, his love for Rosaline has vanished and he loves someone else. How can women be expected to be faithful, if their husband is faithless? Everything Friar Lawrence said was absolutely true. We can tell that Romeo and Juliet are perfect together, but they are so impulsive they want to get married overnight. Even if both of their families gave consent, which they most definitely haven’t, you shouldn’t marry someone you just met. Let’s be real, Romeo probably doesn’t even know Juliet’s birthday, favorite colors, or a variety of information he should about her. Marriage is permanent and should be decided by 13 and 17-year-olds, who aren’t old enough to understand the impacts of their decision.

  11. In Act II, Scene iii of Romeo and Juliet by William Shakespeare, Romeo communicates to Friar Lawrence about marrying Juliet. When Romeo requests the Friar marry him to Juliet, he is shocked, because only days before, Romeo had been infatuated with Rosaline, a woman who did not return his love. However, Friar Laurence decides to accept the relationship of Romeo and Juliet in the attempt to stop the civil feud between the Capulets and the Montagues. When Friar Lawrence hears Romeo’s plan to marry Juliet, he says:
    “Holy Saint Francis, what a change is here!
    Is Rosaline, whom thou didst love so dear,
    So soon forsaken? young men’s love then lies
    Not truly in their hearts, but in their eyes.
    Jesu Maria, what a deal of brine
    Hath wash’d thy sallow cheeks for Rosaline!
    How much salt water thrown away in waste,
    To season love, that of it doth not taste!
    The sun not yet thy sighs from heaven clears,
    Thy old groans ring yet in my ancient ears;
    Lo, here upon thy cheek the stain doth sit
    Of an old tear that is not wash’d off yet:
    If e’er thou wast thyself and these woes thine,
    Thou and these woes were all for Rosaline:
    And art thou changed? pronounce this sentence then,
    Women may fall, when there’s no strength in men.”
    Paraphrased:
    Holy Saint Francis, this is a drastic change!
    Have you given up so quickly on Rosaline, whom you loved so much?
    Forgotten so soon? Young men’s love then lies
    Then young men love with their eyes, not with their hearts.
    Jesus and Mary, how many tears did you cry for Rosaline?
    Tears washed your cheeks for Rosaline
    How many salty teardrops did you waste?
    On love you have not yet experienced
    The sun hasn’t yet melted away the fog you made with all your sighs.
    The groans you used to make are still ringing in my old ears.
    There’s still a stain on your cheek
    from an old tear that hasn’t been washed off yet.
    If you were ever yourself, and this melancholy was yours,
    All the sadness was all for Rosaline.
    And now you’ve changed? Say this sentence then:
    Don’t expect women to be faithful when men are so unreliable.
    This passage provides lots of information on the character of Friar Lawrence. He is characterized as a wise man, who is advising the young and inexperienced Romeo. In my opinion, it is necessary for Romeo to have an advisor to help him make decisions due to his lack of judgement and knowledge. Romeo informs the Friar of his desire to get married right away, to which the Friar is shocked, and tells him to wait and really take a moment to think about what he really wants with his life. The friar is shocked because Romeo had love Rosaline very deerly a short time before meeting Juliet. Romeo quickly switched his love interest from Rosaline to Juliet in the matter of days, which can be a problem for him in the future, with his indecision and quick change of mind and heart. In addition, Friar Lawrence is a very similar figure to Romeo as the nurse is to Juliet. Both the Friar and the nurse are advisors/mentor towards Romeo and Juliet helping them make decisions, as well as just being part of their lives. I wonder if and how Friar Lawrence will impact the story? Also, I am curious as to the marriage and relationship of Romeo and Juliet and how it will change throughout the course of the story. I hope to read more and learn more about Romeo, Juliet, and their everlasting love story.

  12. Lines to Paraphrase:

    Holy Saint Francis, what a change is here!
    Is Rosaline, whom thou didst love so dear,
    So soon forsaken? young men’s love then lies
    Not truly in their hearts, but in their eyes.
    Jesu Maria, what a deal of brine
    Hath wash’d thy sallow cheeks for Rosaline!
    How much salt water thrown away in waste,
    To season love, that of it doth not taste!
    The sun not yet thy sighs from heaven clears,
    Thy old groans ring yet in my ancient ears;
    Lo, here upon thy cheek the stain doth sit
    Of an old tear that is not wash’d off yet:
    If e’er thou wast thyself and these woes thine,
    Thou and these woes were all for Rosaline:
    And art thou changed? pronounce this sentence then,
    Women may fall, when there’s no strength in men.

    Paraphrased:

    Wow, what a change!
    Rosaline, someone you loved for so long
    You are over and no longer love,
    young men can’t truly love
    They love for looks but not for real
    Yet, you’ve spent so many tears
    Over Rosaline in the past
    Wasted for love you didn’t even really know, you just imagined
    The signs of heaven do not clear
    Your groans for her still ring in my ears
    The stain of tears still lays on your cheeks
    You wasted that pain for Rosaline
    If you are feeling differently now, you should now that
    When women fall, the men have lost strength

    In these lines, Friar Lawrence is talking to Romeo because he is so surprised by Romeo’s news. Romeo comes to him to tell him that he wants to get married to the love of his life, Juliet. Friar Lawrence is shocked because for a long time, Romeo would come to him and tell him how beautiful Rosaline was and how much he loved her. When Romeo came to him, he was not expecting to hear about Juliet because he was so used to hearing about how infatuated with Rosaline Romeo was. Romeo was excited to tell him about Juliet because he has respect for Friar and because he really isn’t able to go around telling many people. He loves Juliet, wants to marry her, and tell the whole world, but he can’t because of the feud between the families. The fact that Lawrence Knew so much about Romeo and his love life, shows how much of a role Friar Lawrence has in Romeo’s life. Romeo and his father don’t seem to be very close so it is nice that he does have Friar Lawrence to talk to when something big happens in his life. Romeo is lucky to have him in the same way that Juliet is lucky to have the Nurse. It was nice to see that Romeo and Lawrence could talk with each other so easily and act the way they did around each other. When reading, you can tell that Lawrence knows a lot about Romeo and his past, hopefully he will continue to be apart of his future.

    • Ryan, I think you paraphrased the monologue very well, and you have a great analysis too. I like how you compared Romeo’s relationship with Friar Lawrence to Juliet’s relationship with her Nurse. Great work!

  13. Holy Saint Fracis, what a big change!
    Rosaline, the one you love,
    already forgotten? Young men’s hearts
    lie with their eyes, not their heart.
    Jesus Maria, a lot of your tears
    wasted for Rosaline.
    How much tears did you waste
    for love you’ve never felt?
    The sun not yet cleared your sighs,
    your groans still ringing in my ears.
    There is a stain on your cheek
    of a tear that has not yet washed away
    yourself and your tears,
    were all for Rosaline.
    Have you changed? When you do, speak this sentence,
    Women will fall when men fall.

    Romeo was in love with Rosaline, and all of a sudden, he is in love with Juliet. All the tears, that he cried for Rosaline are now all wasted. Love comes from the eyes, not the heart. It comes from what you see, not what you feel. Romeo falls in love with Juliet, and her looks may be the reason Romeo is in love with her. Romeo would talk about how beautiful Rosaline was, and now he is asking to marry Juliet. This is really shocking because Romeo’s love for Rosaline seemed so true. This speech, spoken by Friar Lawrence, came after Romeo asked to marry Juliet. Friar Lawrence is “his man” like the nurse is to Juliet. Romeo feels comfortable talking to him, while it would be totally unacceptable to talk about marrying a Capulet with his parents.

  14. In Act II, scene iii of Romeo and Juliet, Romeo discusses his feelings about Juliet with Friar Lawrence, and asks him to marry them. Friar Lawrence responds to Romeo with,

    “Holy Saint Francis, what a change is here!
    Is Rosaline, that thou didst love so dear,
    So soon forsaken? Young men’s love then lies
    Not truly in their hearts, but in their eyes.
    Jesu Maria, what a deal of brine
    Hath washed thy sallow cheeks for Rosaline!
    How much salt water thrown away in waste
    To season love, that of it doth not taste!
    The sun not yet thy sighs from heaven clears,
    Thy old groans yet ringing in mine ancient ears.
    Lo, here upon thy cheek the stain doth sit
    Of an old tear that is not washed off yet.
    If e’er thou wast thyself and these woes thine,
    Thou and these woes were all for Rosaline.
    And art thou changed? Pronounce this sentence
    then:
    Women may fall when there’s no strength in men.”
    (ll. 69-85, page 89).

    Paraphrased this means,

    Holy Saint Francis, what a change has occurred!
    Wasn’t it Roseline you loved so dearly,
    Forgotten so soon? Young men’s love then lies
    Not true lay in their hearts, but in what they see.
    Jesus and Mary, you cried so much
    And tears went down your cheeks for Rosaline!
    How many tears have been wasted
    On love that was not true!
    The sun hasn’t left the sighs you left from heaven,
    And I still hear your groans in my old ears.
    On your cheek there is still a stain,
    Of an old tear that has not washed off yet.
    If you were yourself and that was your sadness,
    All because of Rosaline.
    And have you changed? Say this sentence
    then:
    Women will fall unfaithful when men are unreliable.

    What I found most interesting in this scene was Friar Lawrence’s constant change of mindset. At first he was delighted to hear about Romeo’s love and want of marriage since he thought it was Rosaline he was talking about. Then he found out it was Juliet that Romeo wanted to marry. Friar Lawrence then said no. He kept saying no and it seemed like he wouldn’t change his mind. He even tried to talk Romeo out of it by saying that he was just in love with Rosaline, and now all of the sudden he is in love with Juliet. He said he couldn’t trust that he was serious this time. This goes to show just how important houses were in that time. A man of the church wouldn’t even think about marrying two people of different houses- it was unheard of. But then Friar Lawrence had a sudden change of heart. He agrees to marry the two. In the book it doesn’t specify what caused his change of heart, but in the movie he looks at a cross and then says yes. I wonder what Shakespeare thought changes his mind.

  15. Holy Saint Francis, this sure is a change of heart.
    Is your lovely Rosaline already out of your heart?
    Men like you seem to love a woman for her looks, not her true self.
    Jesus and Mary, what about all the times you cried about Rosalind.
    How many salty tear-drops did you waste salting a love you never tasted?
    The sun hasn’t yet cleared away all of the fog from your heavens,
    And that old whining is coming back into my memory.
    I still remember the tears you cried, they are stained on your face.
    You went through so much with you and your sadness, which was all for Rosaline.
    Suddenly, you have changed?!
    Well repeat this after me: Woman will be heartbroken and unfaithful when men don’t have the strength to love them back.

    I think the Friar is just confused how Romeo can go from being a mess after being heartbroken, to falling back in love immediately after. I honestly would be too. I think Shakespeare wanted to show everyone how different Romeo and Juliet’s relationship was as opposed to Romeo’s love for Rosaline. My favorite part of the monologue is the last sentence, “Woman may fall when there’s no strength in men.” I think that is just really powerful because you can’t expect your love to be faithful and loving when you give her no love back. That can apply to men in our society today.

  16. Holy Saint Francis, what a change is here!
    Is Rosaline, whom thou didst love so dear,
    So soon forsaken? young men’s love then lies
    Not truly in their hearts, but in their eyes.
    Jesu Maria, what a deal of brine
    Hath wash’d thy sallow cheeks for Rosaline!
    How much salt water thrown away in waste,
    To season love, that of it doth not taste!
    The sun not yet thy sighs from heaven clears,
    Thy old groans ring yet in my ancient ears;
    Lo, here upon thy cheek the stain doth sit
    Of an old tear that is not wash’d off yet:
    If e’er thou wast thyself and these woes thine,
    Thou and these woes were all for Rosaline:
    And art thou changed? pronounce this sentence then,
    Women may fall, when there’s no strength in men.

    Holy Saint Francis! There is such a drastic change here!
    Wasn’t it just Rosaline who you so dearly loved?
    So soon forgotten? Then young men love with their eyes and not their hearts.
    Jesus and Mary, how many tears fell for your love for Rosaline! How many tears gone to waste.
    The sun still hasn’t forgotten your sighs.
    Your groans are still ringing in my ears.
    On your cheek, a stain from a tear drop still remains,
    You were sad all this time for Rosaline.
    And now you are completely changed.
    Repeat this sentence after me, women are bound to leave when men are so unreliable.

    Romeo tells the Friar Lawrence about how he wants to marry Juliet. Romeo is more on the impulsive and irrational side; however, I think Friar Lawrence is Romeo’s “Jiminy Cricket” or conscience. He thinks very rationally, and thinks if its very necessary. He also points out that he was just in love with the another woman the other day. And now, he wants to marry another woman. That too, from a rival family. The Capulets! But, Friar Lawrence, sees the positive side to the situation and thinks that it will mend the conflicts between the two families. However, we all know that Romeo and Juliet don’t exactly have the happy ending they wished for.

  17. Holy Saint Francis, what a change is here!
    Is Rosaline, whom thou didst love so dear,
    So soon forsaken? Young men’s love then lies.
    Not truly in their hearts, but in their eyes.
    Jesu Maria, what a deal of brine
    Hath washed thy sallow cheeks for Rosaline!
    How much salt water thrown away in waste
    To season love, that of it doth not taste!
    The sun not yet thy sighs from heaven clears,
    Thy old groans yet ringing in my anchkent ears.
    Lo, here upon thy cheek the stain doth sit
    Of an old tear that is not washed off yet.
    If e’er thou wast thyself, and those woes thine,
    Thou and these woes were all for Rosaline.
    And art thou changed? Pronounce this sentence then:
    Women may fall when there’s no strength in men.

    Paraphrased version:

    Holy Saint Francis, what a big change!
    Is Rosaline that you used to love so much
    So soon forgotten? Young men’s love lies
    Not truly in heart, but in their looks.
    Jesus and Mary, you’ve cried so much
    And washed your cheeks for Rosaline!
    How many years have been wasted
    On love that was not truly felt!
    The sun does not clear thy sighs from heaven yet,
    And I still remember your old groans.
    Here on your cheek the stain does sit
    Of an old tear that is not washed off yet.
    If you were yourself and these caused pain,
    These pains were all for Rosaline.
    And are you changed? Say this then:
    Women will leave when there is no faith in men.

    This is a very interesting speech that can really connect and reach out to younger audiences well. Sure, we’ve all had that person that we have a crush on, and then we tell our best friend and it’s a big secret. But majority of us have not felt true love. If you ever “loved” someone as a partner, it was most likely not for long. In the same way, Romeo loved Rosaline for a very short amount of time before loving Juliet. Also, when talking about your crush, you don’t say how smart and hard working and how compassionate they are. You’ll most likely leave it at “They’re so cute!” Our feelings come from looks at this age, and most of us are so caught up with having a good-looking boyfriend/girlfriend that we rush into a relationship. In reality, there should be time spent getting to know each other and learning to value the other person’s feelings and views. Shakespeare teachers is a valuable lesson with Romeo, learning that rushed love that doesn’t seem right from the start is most likely a poor relationship. That is why we should learn to take our time, especially when it comes to important decisions, such as spouses,careers, houses, and more big life choices. It may seem like a good idea to date that one popular girl because you “think that you maybe just might like her”, but that only leads to awkward friendships and dead ends. Lesson learned: Get to know and love people for who they are, not just for their cute makeup.

  18. Holy Saint Francis, you are so different now!
    Is Rosaline, of whom you loved so dearly,
    So soon forgotten? Young men’s love must then lie
    In what they see, but not what they feel.
    My gosh, so many tears
    Have fallen down your cheeks for Rosaline!
    How many salty tears have you wasted
    On seasoning love, which you haven’t even tasted!
    It’s barely been a day since you were sighing for Rosaline,
    Your old groans for her are still sounding in my ears.
    Why look, upon your cheek there is still a stain
    Of an old tear that isn’t gone yet.
    If you were ever yourself, and these sorrows are yours,
    You and your sorrows were all for Rosaline.
    And are you really changed? Say this sentence then:
    Women may not be faithful when men are unreliable.
    (lines 69-85)

    During this speech, Friar Lawrence is scolding Romeo for moving on from Rosaline so quickly and by so much. We already knew that Romeo is incredibly impulsive, but Friar Lawrence is pointing out to him just how impulsive he really is, and how his claimed love for Rosaline must have not been real. Also, seeing as Romeo went to him for help and not his own family or Mercutio, it’s pretty obvious that he sees the Friar as a father figure. He even calls him “father,” even though he’s not actually a priest. Furthermore, Lawrence acts much like a father in these circumstances, as he first chides Romeo for his childishness, but he then helps him the best he can. In this monologue, Friar Lawrence talks a lot about how Romeo has basically wasted his tears and his love on Rosaline, since he has moved on so quickly and with no looking back. I find this interesting, as one today wouldn’t really say that you’ve wasted your affections on someone after you stop liking them. I think that this is mainly because of the difference between societal goals in today’s world and the time period of the play. During those times, if you started dating, or courting someone, you were most likely expected to end up marrying that person. We see how early on in life Juliet is expected to get married, and how much is riding on her doing so. Today, for the most part, people are a lot more understanding and sympathetic when you tell them that you and so-and-so broke up, or that you’ve moved on to liking someone else. We aren’t as insistent on marriage today as we once were, and I think for the better, because we don’t have to sit through all of these monologues about what a horrible person we are for not liking someone anymore.

  19. Holy Saint Francis, what a change is here!
    Is Rosaline, whom thou didst love so dear,
    So soon forsaken? young men’s love then lies
    Not truly in their hearts, but in their eyes.
    Jesu Maria, what a deal of brine
    Hath wash’d thy sallow cheeks for Rosaline!
    How much salt water thrown away in waste,
    To season love, that of it doth not taste!
    The sun not yet thy sighs from heaven clears,
    Thy old groans ring yet in my ancient ears;
    Lo, here upon thy cheek the stain doth sit
    Of an old tear that is not wash’d off yet:
    If e’er thou wast thyself and these woes thine,
    Thou and these woes were all for Rosaline:
    And art thou changed? pronounce this sentence then,
    Women may fall, when there’s no strength in men.

    paraphrased:

    Holy saint Francis a change has happened.
    Isn’t Rosaline the one who you love so much
    Already forgotten. Your love must be lying to you.
    This does not come your heart but what you see from your eyes
    Jesus and Mary so many tears were shed
    You washed your cheeks with tears for Rosaline
    All this crying for her was a waste.
    All because of a love that you didn’t even get involved in.
    The sun and heavens cleared your sadness for her
    Your cry’s were so recent I still hear them in my ears
    And your cheeks are still stained with your tears
    These tears don’t seemed to have left yet.
    All the sadness and tears you felt in the past
    All of this was for Rosaline
    And you have now changed? Then speak of this new love
    Woman will not be there for you every time you fall.

    This speech by Friar Lawrence is almost a scolding and a lesson to Romeo. Friar sees how silly it is for Romeo to just randomly love someone else after having longed for one girl so much. He talks of how many tears Romeo has shed because of Rosaline and in a way tries to persuade him to go back at it with Rosaline. Friar Lawrence also points out that Romeo clearly is not loving through his heart, but with his eyes. Which is entirely true. Romeo saw both Juliet and Rosaline for their beauty but not what they had in them. Romeo’s love life is clearly flawed in many ways off he can just switch from one girl to another.

  20. Holy Saint Francis! you have changed!
    Is Rosaline, the one you loved so dearly,
    Already forgotten? Young men’s love depends
    Not fully by their heart, but by their eyes.
    Jesu Maria, so much tears
    Has washed the unhealthy cheeks for Rosaline!
    So many tears were wasted
    To preserve love, that was not experienced.
    Your clouds of sighs has not been spread by the sun,
    The groans are ringing in my old ears.
    Sitting upon your cheek is a stain
    Of an old tear that has not yet been washed away.
    If it was me, and these woes were mine,
    These woes would all be for Rosaline.
    Have you changed? if so, say this:
    Women may fall when there there is no more strength in men.

    In this scene, Friar Lawrence is complaining how Romeo wanted to marry Juliet when only a few hours ago he was mourning for Rosaline. He is identifying the irony of the situation. Eventually though, he is convinced to help Romeo get married to Juliet, despite them being enemies.

  21. Holy Saint Francis, what a change is here!
    Is Rosaline, whom thou didst love so dear,
    So soon forsaken? young men’s love then lies
    Not truly in their hearts, but in their eyes.
    Jesu Maria, what a deal of brine
    Hath wash’d thy sallow cheeks for Rosaline!
    How much salt water thrown away in waste,
    To season love, that of it doth not taste!
    The sun not yet thy sighs from heaven clears,
    Thy old groans ring yet in my ancient ears;
    Lo, here upon thy cheek the stain doth sit
    Of an old tear that is not wash’d off yet:
    If e’er thou wast thyself and these woes thine,
    Thou and these woes were all for Rosaline:
    And art thou changed? pronounce this sentence then,
    Women may fall, when there’s no strength in men.

    These were the words spoken between Friar Lawrence and Romeo, when Romeo asks Friar Lawrence to marry him to Juliet.
    Here is this paraphrased:

    Holy Saint Francis, what a change has come!
    Is Rosaline, who you loved so much, so soon gone?
    Young men’s love lies not truly in their hearts, but in their eyes.
    Jesus Maria, so much salt
    I’ve washed my checks from Rosaline!
    How much salt thrown away in such waste, to season love, that without it does not taste.
    The sun not yet clears from above,
    The old groans ring in my old ears,
    Over here the stain does sit
    With an olds tear that has not washed of yet
    If I would waste myself on these woesand they were mine,
    Them and these woes were for Rosaline
    And are you changed? Say this sentence then,
    Women will fall when there is no strength in men.

    This is when Friar Lawrence is speaking to Romeo about his past love, Rosaline, and why it left so quick from his heart, thus making the Friar believe that the love between Romeo and Juliet is not real. I find this fascinating.

  22. The line below was said by Friar Lawrence:
    “Holy Saint Francis, some much change has come,
    What happened to Rosaline, who you used to love,
    So soon forgotten? Young men are shallow and love based on beauty and not personality.
    Jesus Maria, what is the deal,
    Did you wash these cheeks of Rosaline,
    Salt water was used for waste,
    Did you not taste the love!
    The sun does not set as heaven shows,
    Their groans pain my ears;
    Upon your cheek, old tears
    have stained your face,
    You’ve wasted all your woes,
    and all your woes were to Rosaline:
    And now you’ve changed? hear me this then,
    women can stay in love, but men will always falter.”
    Pretty much what Friar Lawrence is going a rant of sorts about how emotionally fickle Romeo is. He jumps from woman to woman constantly, He was last romancing Rosaline and now a day later he wants to marry Juliet. Friar believes that Romeo is quite shallow when it comes to romantic partners. It seems Friar is sick of people loving beauty first before whats really inside. It’s very smart message to preach and one that Romeo needed to hear.

  23. Holy Saint Francis, what a change is here!
    Is Rosaline, whom thou didst love so dear,
    So soon forsaken? young men’s love then lies
    Not truly in their hearts, but in their eyes.
    Jesu Maria, what a deal of brine
    Hath wash’d thy sallow cheeks for Rosaline!
    How much salt water thrown away in waste,
    To season love, that of it doth not taste!
    The sun not yet thy sighs from heaven clears,
    Thy old groans ring yet in my ancient ears;
    Lo, here upon thy cheek the stain doth sit
    Of an old tear that is not wash’d off yet:
    If e’er thou wast thyself and these woes thine,
    Thou and these woes were all for Rosaline:
    And art thou changed? pronounce this sentence then,
    Women may fall, when there’s no strength in men.

    Holy Saint Francis, what change has come!
    Is Rosaline that you loved so much, already gone? Then the love you feel is not truly from the heart, but in your eyes.
    Jesu Maria, so many tears have washed the cheeks of Rosaline!
    All those tears wasted
    To preserve a love that was never experienced!
    The sun is still hidden by your sighs, your groans still annoy my old ears.
    On your cheek there is a stain, of a tear that you have not yet cleaned.
    You wasted all your woes, as all your woes were for Rosaline.
    So are you changed? Repeat me this sentence, Women will fall when men are no longer strong.

  24. During the classic scene of Juliet on her balcony, both her and Romeo decide to get married after a matter of hours of even knowing each other. To make arrangements for marriage, Romeo for the next day to the nearest church. There, the friar Lawrence meets him. After Romeo tells him of his love for Juliet, this is his paraphrased response:
    Holy Saint Francis, how much change has occurred
    Has Rosalin, who you loved so dearly,
    So quickly given up? Then really young men’s love is defined
    Not by their hearts, but by their eyes.
    Jesu Maria, how much rain must have cleaned your cheeks for Rosaline.
    How much salty water wasted
    In flavoring this love that has no flavor.
    The sun hasn’t yet cleaned out your sighs
    Your old groans still ring in my old ears
    And look here on your cheek a stain
    If an old tear that hasn’t been washed off
    If you were ever yourself, and these sorrows ever were your own,
    You and your sorrows would be for Rosaline,
    And are you changed? Then say this
    Women might fall when men are weak

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